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Episode Summary

How the first part in a trilogy adaptation of R. L. Stine’s spooky series harks back to iconic 90s teen horror films in all their gory, unsanitised, and often rip-roaring glory. Plus, we decide what a 2021 teen horror soundtrack would look like, all in this episode with Gen Fricker and Alexei Toliopoulos.

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Episode Transcription

Gen Fricker:

You know, sometimes it's like stuff's in the 90s. Who's this young Kurt Cobain that everybody's talking about. I'm just going to wrap my flannel around my hips because I'm grunge.

Gen Fricker:

My heart is racing. I'm scared. I'm short of breath. And my name is Gen Fricker.

Alexei Toliopoulos:

And I am trembling with both fear and excitement. And my name as always is Alexei Toliopoulos.

Gen Fricker:

This is the Big Film Buffet.

Alexei Toliopoulos:

A podcast for pop culture fans and people looking for what to watch recommendations.

Gen Fricker:

Yes, we are very spooked this episode because we're kicking off Fear Month on this very podcast.

Alexei Toliopoulos:

We are indeed. And Fear Month is a celebration of a brand new trilogy of slasher films coming out on Netflix over the next few weeks called Fear Street. And they're all based on a book series from the iconic horror legend R.L. Stine.

Gen Fricker:

Yes, the Fear Street films will be coming out on Netflix each Friday over the next three weeks. And the very cool thing about them is that each one is set in a different era full of spookiness.

Alexei Toliopoulos:

And this week we're talking about the first of the three films, Fear Street, Part One, set in one of the spookiest eras of all time, 1994.

Gen Fricker:

Oh my goodness.

Alexei Toliopoulos:

I was but a bub, I was but a little bub.

Gen Fricker:

I was simply a grubling.

Speaker 3:

Cursed, the witch is real.

Speaker 4:

She put a curse on Shadyside.

Speaker 5:

She's been possessing people, turning them into killers. Taking revenge on the town. It happens in Shadyside over and over.

Speaker 4:

Bad things happen here, you can't stop her. Your best chance is to run from this place.

Speaker 3:

Hello? Hello...

Alexei Toliopoulos:

Fear Street, Part One, 1994 is the first in this trilogy of films directed by Leigh Janiak. This is your typical classic horror slasher film. It's a group of teenagers. There is a killer on the loose about them, and the killer is absolutely besieged in mystery. They enveloped in hearsay and supernatural powers if you will. And this is set in a small town called Shadyside and Shadyside has been besieged by these killers over many, many generations,

Gen Fricker:

Hundreds of years.

Alexei Toliopoulos:

Hundreds of years in fact. I got to tell you this, Gen, this is absolute catnip for me. I go fricking psycho. I go nutso for slasher movies, especially in that teen genre.

Gen Fricker:

The context for my first viewing of this movie was at the COVID vaccination clinic. Because it was a bit of a wait so I just was in the waiting room. Then I just pulled out Netflix on my phone and I watched it.

Alexei Toliopoulos:

The beauty of the platform.

Gen Fricker:

You can watch it anywhere. And also I was getting too anxious about waiting. I was like, "This will cut some of the anxiety I feel."

Alexei Toliopoulos:

That is true. The thing about a slasher is that it will give you some anxiety, but then it'll just relieve that tension by cutting things up whenever you need it.

Gen Fricker:

Exactly. There's a lot of catharsis in it.

Alexei Toliopoulos:

Absolutely.

Gen Fricker:

You know what I mean? This is such a fun movie. There's so much to talk about. Just the opening sequence, setting it all up. We're in Shadyville in 1994. It's a couple of teens in this really boxy looking mall and something spooky is happening. Something's amiss and there's an incredible chase scene.

Alexei Toliopoulos:

Yeah.

Gen Fricker:

I don't want to give too much away obviously, but I think it just sets it all up really, really well. That opening sequence is Maya Hawke. Right? Ethan Hawke's daughter.

Alexei Toliopoulos:

Yeah, Ethan Hawke and Uma Thurman's daughter.

Gen Fricker:

Aah, everyone has a mommy and a daddy.

Alexei Toliopoulos:

That's true. And she's also in Stranger Things. So she's a really cool, bright young star that has this very cool Drew Barrymore moment in this film.

Gen Fricker:

Yeah. I think it's like also something really funny about that casting as well. It's like you're hearkening back to iconic eras of the 90s.

Alexei Toliopoulos:

Oh yeah.

Gen Fricker:

So who do you get? But the daughter of two of the most iconic stars of the 90s.

Alexei Toliopoulos:

Yeah, the two Gen X legends.

Gen Fricker:

Exactly, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Alexei Toliopoulos:

I think one of the coolest things about these kinds of slasher movies that you do see these interesting teen actors popping up in them or interesting new stars. And I think that's one of the coolest things about teen movies in particular teen slasher films is that they do have the chance to cast younger or unknown actors without so much of a bigger profile and really break them.

Alexei Toliopoulos:

And there's this actor in this film that we talked about a little bit a few weeks ago for our Woman in the Window episode called Fred Hechinger, who I hadn't really seen until this year popping up in a few movies. And I think this guy is such an interesting weirdo. Yeah, he's got this fascinating energy about him that kind of creates an unsettling presence in a way I haven't really seen before.

Gen Fricker:

Yeah, I feel he's one of those actors and there's like a few kicking around that maybe you wouldn't necessarily notice on the street as an actor because they just look like a regular guy-

Alexei Toliopoulos:

Yeah.

Gen Fricker:

... which in the context of a movie, Evan Peters, especially in the first season of American Horror Story or Barry Keoghan, who you might know from American Animals or The Killing of a Sacred Deer. Often these guys do play kind of disturbed young people in suburbia-

Alexei Toliopoulos:

True.

Gen Fricker:

... because they just look like a guy from the suburbs.

Alexei Toliopoulos:

He's doing all of that, but then he's playing with it with such an interesting type of humour where it's not necessarily goofy. It's still quite sincere, but he's still just puts you on edge in the film, but in a way that I would describe as quite warm.

Gen Fricker:

Yeah, yeah, yeah, definitely.

Alexei Toliopoulos:

And so I think to me, this guy has got a bright future because how you make a movie starts by having a really unique presence. And this guy in the last year or two has been creating this really interesting little filmography of just bringing something new to the screen. So I'm calling it now, I'm going to make the big call.

Gen Fricker:

Uh-huh (affirmative).

Alexei Toliopoulos:

This guy's going to win an Oscar in the next 40 years. I'm putting it out there. Give me 40 years. I reckon this guy's got it.

Gen Fricker:

Oh my Lord, that is so funny to make such a declarative statement over the course of 40 years.

Alexei Toliopoulos:

Give the guy a lifetime. I reckon he's going to get one. And he's like, Montgomery Clift or something.

Gen Fricker:

Check back in on 2061 and we'll if you're right.

Alexei Toliopoulos:

And if I'm right, you owe me $48. Okay, dude, I'm putting the bet on the table now.

Gen Fricker:

48 dollars...

Alexei Toliopoulos:

Yeah. That's what I worked out the odds are. I reckon it's pretty good.

Gen Fricker:

The cast in this is great. I mean, someone who jumped out at me and it's just because I love seeing him in stuff, which is normal.

Alexei Toliopoulos:

Yeah. It's very normal the way you're describing it. But I mean, everyone loves seeing actors in things, movies, TV shows, web series, webisodes.

Gen Fricker:

So sorry. Oh my God.

Alexei Toliopoulos:

Tell me who you love seeing in this movie?

Gen Fricker:

Someone who I was really excited about seeing in this movie is an Australian actor called Ashley Zukerman.

Alexei Toliopoulos:

He was on Rush and stuff and Underbelly, right?

Gen Fricker:

Yeah.

Alexei Toliopoulos:

Yeah.

Gen Fricker:

Then he plays kind of like the small town cop. And I'm like, this is great. I love this figure, again there's a self-awareness of this is what my role is. This is an arche typical role being the small town cop who's got to investigate murders. As we kind of know from the genre movies, they usually don't get to the bottom of it.

Alexei Toliopoulos:

Yeah.

Gen Fricker:

I just love actors who know what their role is in the ensemble.

Alexei Toliopoulos:

Absolutely. I think one of the coolest things about this type of movie and why I'm so drawn to them is because it kind of gives you a different lens on what the teen movie is. Teen movies are a coming of age film, like they're films about people finding themselves or becoming an adult in some kind of way.

Alexei Toliopoulos:

I think what teen slasher films do so well is they capture this very unique point in adolescence, in teen hood, where you are in that transitional period where you're no longer a kid, you're not an adult. And you're in that slightly having one foot in that adult world, but you're in this world still separate from your parents. And parents do not really play a role in this film. This cop played by Ashley Zukerman is one of the only few adult figures that play a major part in this movie.

Alexei Toliopoulos:

And so there's that real sense of fear of, "Oh, I don't want to go to my parents for this. I don't want my parents to find out." And I think that's a very real fear that people have that these kinds of movies, this one especially, taps into quite effectively. Having this separate world and keeping these secrets and not really wanting your parents to find things out and not feeling like you can even go speak to them about these kinds of things-

Gen Fricker:

Yeah.

Alexei Toliopoulos:

Which is a killer on the loose trying to kill you guys.

Gen Fricker:

Well yeah, because it's all tied up in those feelings that you have when you're a teenager of being on the outside of things, like you're saying, and being weirdly horny and not really having language around that. And then yeah the end of high school, especially it's that death of innocence that, as you said, the coming of age, that independence that you have, we kind of see yourself as an adult and the responsibilities of that for the first time. And that can be terrifying.

Alexei Toliopoulos:

I think that as well-

Gen Fricker:

There's a bloody killer on the streets.

Alexei Toliopoulos:

That's exactly why I'm into this movie and what surprised me about it was it's based on these books, Fear Street by R.L. Stine, who we mainly do know as an author of children's literature in that horror field with Goosebumps. Goosebumps, to me, absolutely iconic. I would be a different person if I didn't read Goosebumps as a kid.

Gen Fricker:

Mm-hmm (affirmative). What kind of person do you think you'd be?

Alexei Toliopoulos:

Probably accountant normal.

Gen Fricker:

That's what I was going to say.

Alexei Toliopoulos:

I've got accountant energy, but I don't know how to do math. I'd have learned math if I didn't learn Goosebumps as a kid.

Gen Fricker:

True, you reckon the space that Goosebumps took up.

Alexei Toliopoulos:

[crosstalk 00:10:19].

Gen Fricker:

Pushed out the maths.

Alexei Toliopoulos:

Just like a one for one, yeah, yeah.

Gen Fricker:

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Alexei Toliopoulos:

This kid likes the dummy talking to him. Not so much the mathematic side.

Gen Fricker:

Absolutely. It's like, I know how to play Goosebumps on piano, the theme.

Alexei Toliopoulos:

(Singing).

Gen Fricker:

(Singing). Goosebumps.

Alexei Toliopoulos:

Be aware for a scare.

Gen Fricker:

Be aware for a scare. Exactly.

Alexei Toliopoulos:

And I've kind of thought that this would be a little bit more, you know, YA or Kids Lit where you kind of introduce to the themes of horror.

Gen Fricker:

But it's actually just simply Lit.

Alexei Toliopoulos:

Yeah. It's simply Lit is how I would describe it, but it's kind of gets a little bit further and I did not expect this movie to be so truly horny and bloody. I think that is really what grabbed me by surprise and just got me to fall kind of that step in love with this movie.

Gen Fricker:

Why did it's horniness and bloodiness get you in?

Alexei Toliopoulos:

I thought it would be a little bit tame or a little bit sanitised, but it's not, this is like a legit horror slasher movie for teens.

Gen Fricker:

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Alexei Toliopoulos:

And I think it's playful enough for actually young people, teens to embrace it as something cool and new, and it feels throwbacky in the right ways and still feels really fresh in the right ways as well.

Alexei Toliopoulos:

I think the grubbiness with the teens hooking up with each other, but it not being part of the danger that kind of classic thrillers and slasher films go to where it's like, "Oh, if you have sex, it's actually pretty bad for you. Something bad might happen if you do that."

Alexei Toliopoulos:

But you know, it's warmly embraced and that's what feels really fresh and exciting about it. And also the bloodiness I thought would be sanitised for a younger audience, but I'm like, "No, this is like you said, simply Lit." You're going to see some blood spill and some of that blood's going to be black.

Gen Fricker:

It is. Honestly when I was sitting in the COVID Vaccine Clinic watching, I was like, "Oh, I don't know if I should be watching this out in the daylight." It is pretty full on.

Gen Fricker:

I think there's also just something really fun watching this movie in knowing it is the first part of a trilogy. And when you sit down and you know that this movie is building something, but without being too expositional-

Alexei Toliopoulos:

Yeah, mm-hmm (affirmative).

Gen Fricker:

I think that's always the key to getting people to invest in a universe and invest-

Alexei Toliopoulos:

Absolutely.

Gen Fricker:

... in the characters and invest in why should we care about this, you know what I mean? We've talked about it before on our Movie Pet Peevs episode where we just hate endless exposition, but here this world building the universe is of Shadyville where all these horrible killings going on and Sunnyside, the neighbouring town where the rich kids live and how there's no crimes. It's just perfect in that like light and dark. It's kind of goofy in a way, which is fun. There's always a crumb of humour at the bottom of everything in this film.

Alexei Toliopoulos:

Absolutely, and I think there's something so true and playful about that idea of suburbs or little towns having these rivalries like that and just works so well in exactly this kind of movie.

Gen Fricker:

What are some other teen slasher movies that you are crazy for? That make you, if you will, scream?

Alexei Toliopoulos:

Well I would say the one that you just said, Scream is one of my favourite films of all time. And this one definitely lives in that same kind of field. This one is definitely hearkening back to that 1990s era of slasher films being revitalised by stuff like Scream, being a bit self referential, kind of knowing the tropes and how to play with them.

Alexei Toliopoulos:

I think it's so cool that this really is set in that moment in time where slashers had this revitalization, there was this period in the 90s where there was the Meta Slash Up, if you will. It kicks off with Wes Craven just before Scream. He made a sequel to Nightmare on Elm Street called New Nightmare. Which is set in the real world with the actors of the original Nightmare on Elm Street being haunted by a dream demon that inspired Freddy Krueger.

Alexei Toliopoulos:

You're starting to get meta with it all. You're starting to get commentary about what the slashers are even all about. And then Scream comes out and destroys everything. It blows up everyone's expectations of what a horror slasher can even be by being so new and so fresh and quite funny as well. And then we've got a slew of imitators of varying quality from The Faculty also written by Kevin Williamson, the writer of Scream and stuff like Urban Legends, which you know, I don't love Urban Legend, not as loved.

Gen Fricker:

Not as loved?

Alexei Toliopoulos:

Then also really fun stuff like Final Destination with you're playing with the expectations of yes, everyone is going to die, but the way they die is going to be very fun and exciting and you know what's going to happen. It's a very playful era of horror that revitalises a stagnant genre that had really felt very samey over the last decade. Lost that freshness, got very stale and it awakened everything up.

Alexei Toliopoulos:

Now I find it so fascinating that 30 years later, we're looking back at that with such nostalgia. And I think that I'm so excited for this series because I've never seen anything like this before, where we have a trilogy of horror films that are planned out.

Gen Fricker:

I'm not traditionally a horror fan, but something that made me really love this film is the soundtrack-

Alexei Toliopoulos:

Oh, yeah.

Gen Fricker:

... because it's a movie set in the 90s. For me, it's just like a big nostalgia here. It's a mixed tape of the best of the best of the best songs from the 90s. I just remember maybe in the first 20 minutes you had Creep by Radiohead, Garbage, Only Happy When It Rains, Insane In The Membrane by Cypress Hill. Sophie B. Hawkins, Damn I Wish I Was Your Lover?

Alexei Toliopoulos:

Damn, if I was your lover...

Gen Fricker:

Damn, if I was your lover...

Alexei Toliopoulos:

That's been the song that I have not been able to stop listening to after watching this movie.

Gen Fricker:

It's just so fun and it doesn't feel at all like, again, it's self-knowing, but without being too clunk you over the head. Sometimes it's like stuff's in the 90s. Who's this young Kurt Cobain that everybody's talking about? I'm just going to wrap my flannel around my hips because I'm grunge. It's not like on the nose 90s-

Alexei Toliopoulos:

No.

Gen Fricker:

It feels very lived in. It feels like what teenagers were really listening to in the 90s.

Alexei Toliopoulos:

I think that's the beauty of it. It's a mixed tape that feels like each of the characters in this film had a selection of songs on there. I think that's what feels immersive about it because I think each track is used differently as well. Sometimes when you're listening to a soundtrack like this, where it's mixed tapey, it can feel very needle droppy. But I think this one uses it in really interesting ways where there's some that feel diegetic, that a part of the movie and part of the world of the film where characters are listening to them.

Alexei Toliopoulos:

Part of them are those cool needle droppy ones where it's just weird, unique song that fits perfectly with the action of the film or there's ones that just feel like background noise. But each one works in a way to envelop you deeper into the world of these teens, but be extremely entertaining in that mix tapey way where this will be my Spotify playlist for the next three weeks after this film comes out.

Gen Fricker:

One hundred percent. And I mean, knowing that the next three movies are set a hundred or so years back, I'm like, "I wonder what they're going to do soundtrack wise?"

Alexei Toliopoulos:

Yeah.

Gen Fricker:

Yeah, I wonder what absolute jams they're going to have in the 1600's.

Alexei Toliopoulos:

Oh my God. I can't wait to hear Insane On The Membrane played on the lute. That'll be my biggest dream.

Gen Fricker:

Oh yeah. Hurdy Gurdy voice.

Alexei Toliopoulos:

Some crazy guy with a bagpipe piping out those songs.

Gen Fricker:

Absolutely going off key.

Alexei Toliopoulos:

That's what I want to hear. I want to hear what the teens in the 1600s were banging on to.

Gen Fricker:

Banging on to?

Alexei Toliopoulos:

Yeah. They were banging on to, banging out to, banging into it. A hypothetical situation, Gen, you are a music expert.

Gen Fricker:

Yup.

Alexei Toliopoulos:

You have been called into create a mixed tape soundtrack for a modern day horror / thriller slasher movie in the teenage world. What tracks are you building out of that soundtrack?

Gen Fricker:

Alexei, you humble me with this question. First of all, I'm on the edge of tears. I mean, I would use the same rules that this movie Fear Street Part 1, 1994 uses where we're not going to limit ourselves to just 1994. A lot of those songs didn't come out necessarily in 1994. A general kind of decade-

Alexei Toliopoulos:

A malaise of that decade.

Gen Fricker:

The malaise, the hits, the tunes of the last decade. Okay. So Fear Street, 2021. I mean obviously someone's spooky and teen age, top of mind would be Billie Eilish.

Alexei Toliopoulos:

Absolutely.

Gen Fricker:

Yeah.

Alexei Toliopoulos:

You got one very obvious song, [Varican 00:19:16] Deep Cargo with that.

Gen Fricker:

Deep Cargo?

Alexei Toliopoulos:

Absolutely.

Gen Fricker:

I think so.

Alexei Toliopoulos:

You go it introducing your slasher character.

Gen Fricker:

Yes. I mean-

Alexei Toliopoulos:

You've got that bad guy playing.

Gen Fricker:

Yeah.

Alexei Toliopoulos:

I think the slasher character should be called Bad Guy.

Gen Fricker:

Bad Guy, I think it should be Billie Eilish.

Alexei Toliopoulos:

Yeah. Played by Billie Eilish.

Gen Fricker:

That would be sick.

Alexei Toliopoulos:

That actually is sick.

Gen Fricker:

All right, well-

Alexei Toliopoulos:

Delete this from the episode, I've got to make [crosstalk 00:19:36].

Gen Fricker:

We've got to work on our spec strip quickly.

Alexei Toliopoulos:

Billie Eilish is a bad guy, maybe good guy we got Taylor Swift.

Gen Fricker:

As in where we're casting Taylor Swift?

Alexei Toliopoulos:

Casting Taylor Swift.

Gen Fricker:

Okay.

Alexei Toliopoulos:

And guess what they have between them?

Gen Fricker:

What?

Alexei Toliopoulos:

They got some bad blood.

Gen Fricker:

Oh, my goodness.

Alexei Toliopoulos:

Everyone's going to be teen pop idols in our slash film.

Gen Fricker:

It's actually like kind of a music slasher.

Alexei Toliopoulos:

Mm-hmm (affirmative).

Gen Fricker:

Mm-hmm (affirmative) in that case Dua Lipa is in it.

Alexei Toliopoulos:

Oh my God. Dula Peep dude.

Gen Fricker:

Dula Peep.

Alexei Toliopoulos:

We got Dula Peep in there.

Gen Fricker:

The wickedly talented Dula Peep.

Alexei Toliopoulos:

Oh my God. I would love Dula Peep in this movie.

Gen Fricker:

Lunoz X.

Alexei Toliopoulos:

Oh wow.

Gen Fricker:

That would be huge.

Alexei Toliopoulos:

I would love Lunoz X to play their science teacher or something. Even though he's the same age or younger than some of the characters.

Gen Fricker:

I reckon he'd be just hot as like one of the hot teens. Right?

Alexei Toliopoulos:

Yeah, true.

Gen Fricker:

Can you see him smacking one of the killers over the head with a kettle?

Alexei Toliopoulos:

Oh, I can see that.

Gen Fricker:

You know that classic scene in any movie in any teen slasher where it's like the killer's looking for them, but then the hero comes up behind them, smacks him over the head with a pot or something?

Alexei Toliopoulos:

Yeah. A little teapot or something. And the teapot matches his outfit, exactly. He's got a monochrome outfit on.

Gen Fricker:

Exactly. I know. I mean 2021, the song of the year so far has been Driver's Licence by Olivia Rodrigo. She'd obviously have to be in it, but then maybe it's also like Driver's Licence, that's when they're finally free at the end of the movie, that's the closing credit song-

Alexei Toliopoulos:

I'm going to cry.

Gen Fricker:

... and then Troye Sivan in it in his beautiful house. Maybe, I don't know if you ever saw his Architectural Digest-

Alexei Toliopoulos:

I've seen the Architectural Digest-

Gen Fricker:

... but he's got a beautiful house.

Alexei Toliopoulos:

Got a beautiful home.

Gen Fricker:

And maybe one of the scenes is set there.

Alexei Toliopoulos:

Oh, I would love that.

Gen Fricker:

Just open plan lifestyle living converted Victorian Terrace-

Alexei Toliopoulos:

I would love this and Troye Sivan, a mighty fine actor. You may know him as playing little Wolverine in X-Men Origins, Wolverine.

Gen Fricker:

No.

Alexei Toliopoulos:

Yes. He was a child actor. Yes. He played young Logan.

Gen Fricker:

What?

Alexei Toliopoulos:

Yes. There's old Logan, that's Hugh Jackman, but I'm all about young Logan, Troye Sivan.

Gen Fricker:

My, My, My that's a Troye Sivan song.

Alexei Toliopoulos:

Okay. Well, you know, I don't listen to music.

Gen Fricker:

My goodness.

Alexei Toliopoulos:

I only watch movies. One of the most interesting things about this is that it's a slasher film. We've got those villains walking around with their knives and they feel like these impenetrable forces, but then deeper down, they've got this backbone of a witches curse around them.

Alexei Toliopoulos:

Over the next few weeks on our Snack Episodes, we'll be deep diving into why we are obsessed with witches. I think, witches are absolutely fascinating creatures in cinema that don't get explored enough, but when they do there's something so interesting about them. So we're going to be looking at those in a mini series over the next month, Looking into Witches. And we are going to be calling this overlapping month Fear Month. As we talk about witches and Fear Street.

Alexei Toliopoulos:

The next movie is Fear Street, Part 2, 1978. And I can't wait to watch it in the comfort of my home. I can't wait to hear your experience while you're getting a second dose of that vaccine once again.

Gen Fricker:

Yeah. I'm get to watch it while I get my second dose of Pfizer. I'll see if the nurse wants to give any...

Alexei Toliopoulos:

We've got to get the nurse on as a guest.

Gen Fricker:

Yeah, absolutely.

Alexei Toliopoulos:

And the week after that we'll be looking at Fear Street, Part 3, 1666.

Gen Fricker:

If you enjoyed this podcast, please make sure you like, you subscribe, leave us a little review wherever you get your podcasts. We really do appreciate it, it makes a big difference to us.

Alexei Toliopoulos:

And what are we serving up in our first very exciting snack of this trilogy?

Gen Fricker:

We have a living legend joining us on the Big Film Buffet Snack Edition next week, the man himself, the twisted mind that it all started with R.L Stine, creator of Goosebumps, creator of Fear Street books. I can't wait, I'm so giddy for this. This is nuts.

Alexei Toliopoulos:

We are both glowing. We are both buzzing because to both of us, R.L Stine is a personal hero, I don't know what else to say because I'm really excited about it.

Alexei Toliopoulos:

This episode was hosted by me Alexei Toliopoulos, and you Gen Fricker.

Gen Fricker:

Produced by Michael Sun and Anu Hasbold.

Alexei Toliopoulos:

Edited by Geoffrey O'Connor

Gen Fricker:

Executive produced by Tony Broderick and Melanie Mahony.